IN THE ROOM

The wrestling talk and interview show that started the revolution! Starring Pro Wrestling Illustrated’s Brady Hicks, with DJ and other members of “the gang.”

This Week’s IN THE ROOM with Mike Tenay

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Former WCW and current TNA IMPACT Wrestling announcer Mike Tenay joined the IN THE ROOM podcast this past Tuesday, June 30, 2015, with Brady Hicks, former WCW wrestler The Stro, Kathie Fitzpatrick, Derrick McDonald, and Jordan Garber. Check it out as Mike Tenay talks the origins of his “Professor” nickname, comparing WCW and TNA and his favorite memories from both, the Kurt Angle/Samoa Joe feud, and intrigue surrounding TNA’s relationships with ROH and Global Force Wrestling. Plus, he talks listening back to his commentary, his love for Mexican wrestling and culture (and how it led to his success on the When Worlds Collide show), and working with Don West.
Plus, Brady Hicks and the gang talk about WWE Tough Enough and how unlikeable the cast is, talk about TNA’s new affiliation with Jeff Jarrett, and take listener calls for two full hours. All that, and so … much … more. Thanks, as always, fo rht
Here are some highlights:

On Uncertainty in TNA Over the Years:
There was the chance, when we got going, to take this to another level. But realistically, when you look back at the fact that we were – in terms of the wrestling business model – doing it completely backwards. We were running a pay-per-view show without having the regular television show to drive people to the pay-per-view … You look at that business model and you just say “How the heck could that thing succeed?” Fortunately, even after a little stumble after the first couple of months, we received the new investors: the Carter family got involved. They were able to keep us going in that environment … In spite of all [the] negatives, we were able to attract Spike TV. Gosh, if you look back, you would have to say it was a long shot for a company that started off as just a pay-per-view company, for a company that had had its obituary written on many, many occasions. It’s one of those things that we think about every year at the anniversary time and it’s definitely one of the things that I was thinking about this past week and this past weekend, when we celebrated our 13th year in business, which is just amazing.
On TNA Bringing in WWE Stars vs Indie Wrestlers
Obviously you’re going to need a mix, going forward. That’s the first thing that you have to think about. I don’t think it’s great to have a roster that’s overloaded with veterans, and I think at the same time it’s very difficult to start with a group of independent names that haven’t really achieved a lot on the national stage.The perfect mix, and as I look and see what we’ve done in the past year plus, I don’t think that TNA gets enough credit. The fact that we’re able to maintain a roster of the established people … and what we’ve been able to do in terms of bringing new young talent to the forefront … and combining them in an effort where you have, obviously, the veterans there to give the rub to that new young talent, which you’re always going to have to do.
IN THE ROOM airs live, weekly, Tuesday nights at 9 PM ET on the VOC Nation Radio Network (vocnation.com / thebradyhicks.com). Join Brady Hicks (Pro Wrestling Illustrated contributing writer), as well as The Stro (WCW’s Maestro), Kathie FitzDerrick McDonald, and Jordan Garber as they run down all that’s going on in wrestling, and sit down with some of wrestling’s top stars.
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IN THE ROOM with Joel Goodhart

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IN THE ROOM this week features Joel Goodhart, the legendary promoter of the old Tri-State Wrestling Alliance and the former host of Rasslin’ Radio on WIP in Philadelphia. Check it out as Joel, now a manager with the ECWA, offers his thoughts on the TWA’s growth, Rasslin’ Radio, his flawless record of zero no-shows, and his current association with the East Coast Wrestling Association. Plus, Joel dispenses advice for aspiring promoters, and offers his memories working with Abdullah The Butcher, The Sheik, Bruiser Brody, Eddie Gilbert, Cactus Jack, and the late Buddy Landell. Plus, Brady Hicks, The Stro, Kathie Fitzpatrick, Derrick McDonald, and Jordan Garber talk WWE’s MVP for the first half of 2015, New Day, and Buddy Landell, and also take callers for two full hours. All that, plus so … much … more. Thanks, as always, for the support.

Here are some highlights:

The Tri-State Wrestling Alliance Legacy:
We wanted to bring in some of the best talent from across the country, develop some young talent at the local level … There’s all stories about why I had these supercards … The reality was we created something that really ran about 2-1/2 years. To this day … 23 years later, we’re still talking about some of the matches that we had. We created something that ultimately became the ECW, that ultimately became the Attitude Era. All I simply did was take the best of what was out there. I took Memphis Wrestling, I took World Class Wrestling, I took Pacific Northwest, I took the old Georgia wrestling, the old Florida wrestling, and brought to the Philadelphia area the best of the best … One of the sayings that we had as an organization was that everyone who came to our show, at some point during the card, got a front-row seat. I think that’s kind of where the business evolved. Where the ring was no longer holding people and the action was outside the ring versus inside the ring.

On Wrestlers’ Size Being a Detriment:
The one thing that I’ve learned about the independent wrestling community is a lot of these guys are just phenomenal athletes, phenomenal wrestlers, but unfortunately they’re not 6’4″, they don’t have a television look, so they never get the push that they deserve … There’s a lot of guys with a tremendous amount of talent that will never get the television push because the gene pool wasn’t there for them. It doesn’t make them bad wrestlers. They’re phenomenal wrestlers. I can watch these guys … do things that are just phenomenal, but they’ll never get the push they deserve.

On How Independent Wrestling Should Be Viewed:
When you look at the business of professional wrestling … These [indie] shows are phenomenal. The talent is phenomenal. These guys and girls are busting their butt. They don’t get paid a whole lot of money. It’s more for the love of the sport. But everyone who claims that they love professional wrestling, they will only go if there’s 2,000 people in the building [or] it’s the return of some wrestler from 15 years ago. There’s a lot of people who aren’t into the sport of professional wrestling. They’re into a specific wrestler, they’re into a specific style of wrestling. This whole concept of Family Friendly doesn’t mean that the show isn’t good. In fact, I would actually argue that some of these Family Friendly shows are better than some of the shows we did … The professional wrestling fan who doesn’t come to the professional wrestling shows, quite frankly they’re not the kind of fans that they think they are.

IN THE ROOM with Maria Kanellis

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IN THE ROOM this week features a special sitdown interview with former WWE Diva and Ring of Honor “First Lady of Wrestling” Maria Kanellis. Check it out for Maria’s thoughts on ROH on Destination America, comparing the ROH and WWE locker rooms, and navigating politics in wrestling. Plus, the former Diva talks her famous red hair, Donald Trump, The Kingdom, and what she found so attractive about the man we all now hate: Mike Bennett.

Plus, Brady Hicks, The Stro, Kathie Fitzpatrick, and Jordan Garber talk WWE Money in the Bank, Raw, Brock Lesnar’s return, and Dusty Rhodes. Plus, open lines for two full hours and so … much … more. Thanks, as always, for the support!

Here are some highlights:

On Her Initial Reaction Being Released by WWE:
I was caught off guard … I know what was going on behind the scenes, and that I was trying to accomplish other things. I think that WWE looked at it like I wasn’t as interested in wrestling because I wanted to do more. I think that they got the wrong impression of what I was trying to do, as well as I got the wrong impression of what they were trying to do. Looking back on it, now five years removed, I would have done things differently. I would have stayed the course. I would have shed a light on women’s wrestling back then, if I would have had the time. And that was being on a mainstream television show and also being in WWE. I think that we were just going in two completely different directions, and it takes time and maturity to be able to see those types of things, and now being removed from them, I definitely would have done things differently. But, at the same time, I’m very thankful that they did release me.

On Being the Bad Girl:
It was fun. It definitely came from a place of wanting to try something different. We joke about it now [that we're] big in Japan, [and] boo’ed in the USA. In Japan we’re good guys. In the US, we’re bad guys. It’s all about performance. It’s all about messing with the crowd and really enjoying that … [And] the Kingdom is such a strong group because we’re all friends. We have that backstory … and that’s what works. These are all guys that go out together, and we all hang out together, and it’s so much fun that we get to perform together.

On Never Winning a Title:
I’ve been told on many, many occasions that championships don’t make or break a talent. So I don’t think of it like that. I think of it like how much of an impact can I make in women’s wrestling, whether I have a title or not. I think that right now, with going to New Japan and being the first female to wrestle against another female in New Japan, we’re breaking down boundaries. If somebody wants to give me a title for that, then that’s great. But at the same time, I don’t need that to define my career. Would it be cool to go back to WWE and win a title at some point? Yeah, sure. But at the same time, if I can accomplish more in Ring of Honor with Destination America, if I can accomplish more in New Japan, then it’s not high on my list.

IN THE ROOM with Diana Hart Smith

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IN THE ROOM this week features the wife of the late “British Bulldog” Davey Boy Smith, sister to Bret “Hitman” Hart, and mother of former WWE star Harry Smith … Diana Smith! Check it out as Diana talks her new book, “Cauliflower Heart,” and talks the legacy of Davey Boy, Owen, Bret, and the entire Hart family, great ribs and pranks by Davey Boy and Owen, tragedies in wrestling, Owen in the WWE Hall of Fame, and the famed SummerSlam ’92 match at Wembley Stadium! Plus, lots of talk about the Legends of the Ring convention from this past weekend, and open lines for two full hours. All that, and so … much … more. Thanks, as always, for the support! 

Check it out as Diana talks her new book “Cauliflower Heart,” Davey’s own thoughts on never winning the WWE title, legendary Owen and Davey ribs (especially involving Lex Luger), comparing Harry to his father, and wrestling being “fake.” Plus, lots of talk about Hart family tragedies, the staff infection that almost killed Davey before SummerSlam ’92, and more. Here are some highlights from the interview:

Owen in the WWE Hall of Fame:
I sure hope [Owen goes in]. I think the fans deserve it because they loved Owen. I know Martha [Hart] and her family have their reasons, but the ones who suffer in all of this are the fans. Regardless of Martha’s animosity for the WWE … With WWE putting Owen in the Hall of Fame, I don’t think they’re trying to disrespect Martha. I think that they’re trying to do the right thing. Martha has her feelings and – like all of us – we’re heartbroken when we lost Owen. We all did lose Owen. Not just one person or one family. We all lost Owen. I know it means a lot to the Owen Hart fans … I know Martha has her reasons [but] I really don’t know what the holdup is … I don’t think it’s tit-for-tat, I believe it’s a lot more complex than that … It has to be a melting on both sides. For a long time, I thought it was one side holding back and not the other, but I think that both sides need to work it out and do it for Owen’s fans. But I understand Martha’s position on it. There are things that need to be addressed before she’s ready to give it her blessing.

On The Bret-Davey IC Match Main-Eventing SummerSlam:
I think a lot of people were mad, not at all Vince McMahon or the people promoting the show. I thinks some of the wrestlers were mad that the Intercontinental belt was being showcased as the main event. I will go to my grave saying that … the main event was Davey and Bret. That’s why they put them as the main event. And part of the reason they broke the record … of selling over 80,000 seats in less than 11 hours was Davey and Bret … I think if you did a poll or a survey [asking] who are your favorites in 1992 at that time, it’s not Ric Flair, it wasn’t Curt Hennig, it wasn’t The Ultimate Warrior, it wasn’t the Legion of Doom … it was perfectly right to have Bret and Davey as the main event for that show. Even though it wasn’t a world championship match.

On Wrestling Dominating Her Life:
It’s overwhelming when I’m not in wrestling. I’m a part of it in pretty much every exponent you could think. I’m a daughter of it, a sister, a wife, a mother, and I do a little bit of it myself. I didn’t wrestle [but] I … did the managing with Davey and Owen … I pretty well covered every aspect of it … I was really involved in it, and now I’m overwhelmed by what is the real world for other people. Sometimes I feel like I … can’t do anything outside of wrestling. I struggle with what is considered the normal life, trying to work a 9-to-5 job, work in an office, I just feel like I’m so far out of my element.

IN THE ROOM with CZW’s Drew Gulak and Rob Dimension

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CZW takes over IN THE ROOM this week as former champion – and CZW school trainer – Drew Gulak, as well as backstage worker Rob Dimension, join the show to talk about the CZW “buffet,” how the company is perceived, how it actually is, and what it would take to become more mainstream. Plus, Drew and Rob talk the future of the wrestling industry via CZW’s dojo, which has produced numerous top wrestling stars over the years. In addition, Brady Hicks is joined by former WCW star The Stro, Kathie Fitzpatrick, former Bleacher Report Editor Ray Bogusz, and Derrick McDonald in talking Kevin Owens, the John Cena-cancer kid “controversy,” and the IMPACT Ring of Honor could make with Destination America. Plus, open phone lines for two full hours! All that … and so much more! Thanks, as always, for the support.

IN THE ROOM

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This week on IN THE ROOM, Brady Hicks is sick, so Ray Bogusz, The Stro, Kathie Fitz, and Derrick McDonald gather for a hearty discussion of WWE Elimination Chamber and recent events on Raw. Plus, the gang finally confronts Dustin for his tall tales, and takes calls for more than two full hours. All this, and so … much … more. Thanks, as always, for the support!

IN THE ROOM with Referee Fred Richards

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This week’s IN THE ROOM includes a special interview with legendary referee Fred Richards, who is NWA-sanctioned and has worked all around the world. What are Richards’ thoughts on the current state of “fast food” wrestling, character development, and what the fans really want? Tune in to find out! Plus, Brady Hicks is joined by former WCW star The Stro, Kathie Fitz, former Bleacher Report Editor Ray Bogusz and Derrick McDonald in talking WWE Payback, previewing WWE Elimination Chamber, and bantering about New Day (clap clap). Plus, what wrestling t-shirts are socially acceptable to wear in public, and open lines for 2-1/2 hours! All that, and so … much … more! Thanks, as always, for the support!

IN THE ROOM with Bull Pain

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This week’s IN THE ROOM has former ECW, WCW, and IWA MidSouth star Bull Pain! Plus, Brady Hicks, The Stro, Kathie Fitz, Ray Bogusz, and Derrick McDonald talk WWE Elimination Chamber, the death of a friend and great referee, Daniel Bryan’s injury, and WWE Payback this Sunday! Plus, open phone lines for two full hours, and so … much … more. Thanks, as always, for the support!

 

IN THE ROOM – Cinco de Mayo Edition

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This week’s IN THE ROOM celebrates Mexican independence! Join wrestling journalist Brady Hicks, former WCW star The Stro, former Bleacher Report editor Ray Bogusz, Kathie Fitz, and Derrick McDonald as they talk Michelle Beadle, Sami Zayne, and backstage WWE rumblings with Dustin. Plus, listener calls all night long. All that, plus so … much … more. Thanks, as always, for the support!

IN THE ROOM with Devon Dudley (WWE’s D-Von Dudley)

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This week’s IN THE ROOM has a special interview with former WWE, TNA, and ECW star Devon Dudley (WWE’s D-Von Dudley). Plus, Brady Hicks, former WCW star The Stro, former Bleacher Report Editor Ray Bogusz, and Kathie Fitz and Derrick McDonal talk WWE King of the Ring, NFL, and so much more. Plus listener calls! Please also check out the ITR Pre-Show with Dustin and John from Rhode Island in the archives above! Thanks, as always, for the support!

Check it out as Devon talks the Team 3D Academy wrestling school, his sons wrestling, the Bill DeMott controversy, life off the road, ECW, being influenced by Steve Austin, Internet wrestling fans, politics, this year’s Royal Rumble non-invite, and being referred to as a “WWE Guy.” Here are some highlights from the interview:

JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, PER DEVON’S REQUEST: HIS COMMENTS BELOW REGARDING PERCEPTIONS OF HIS WEIGHT, AGE, ETC. IN COMPARISON TO BULLY RAY WERE LEVIED BY WRESTLING WRITERS, NOT WWE, ECW, OR TNA CREATIVE TEAM WRITERS.

On Being Compared to Bully Ray:
It always seemed to me – and even Bubba admitted sometimes – … that [wrestling journalists] put one [Dudley] over the other … It was never like that. So I couldn’t understand it. Then it got to the point where certain things were said [such as] “Devon needs to lose weight.” … Then all of a sudden “Devon needs to stay out of the gym … he’s getting too big.” Something like that. I don’t remember … And then it went from those two things to “Well Devon is reaching 40 now.” And I’m like, “I can’t catch a break.” … I was starting to have a complex.

On Avoiding Substance Abuse:
It’s just one of those things where you take care of your body and your body will take care of you. I don’t do drugs. I’m an occasional wine drinker. I love my wine, but that’s about it. For me to go out there and say I’m doing heavy drugs, pills, cocaine, or whatever the crap they’re doing out there, pill popping, I don’t do that. And I think that Bubba and I are one of the guys that can honestly say that. We didn’t participate in that crap.

On Rejoining WWE:
Whether we’re going in there and taking over where we left off, whether we’re helping out the younger generation to get them to where they need to be … you’ve got to pass the torch … Every generation does that … We’re doing the wrestling school now, the Team 3D Wrestling Academy, we’re doing that with our students. We’re passing the torch, we’re passing the knowledge … To be able to go back to WWE and to be able to do that on that level, that would be a great thing for us to be able to do that. To help those young guys out, to help the tag team division thrive again. That’s what our goal would be.

 

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