Interviews with former WCW stars.

IN THE ROOM with Glacier

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IN THE ROOM this week is proud to welcome former WCW star Glacier for the second time, as he prepares for Wrestlecade Thanksgiving weekend in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. What are Glacier’s thoughts on his gimmick being remembered, being considered “legit,” going from fan to friend and business partner with the late Dusty Rhodes, and having one of the best wrestling entrances of all time. Plus, Brady Hicks, The Stro, and Kathie Fitz talk Seth Rollins’ injury, the WWE title tournament and its (lack of) star power, and Kurt Angle returning to WWE. Plus, open phone lines for two full hours and so … much … more! Thanks, as always, for the support.

Quotes transcribed by Mike Bessler of The Inquisitr:

On Getting Lou Thesz’ Blessing:

He finally said to me – I’ll never forget exactly how he said it to me. He said, ‘Ray, professional wrestling is probably never going to get back to the way you and I want it to be … This is the evolution of the business. It’s okay. Go make your money.’

On Competition in WCW:

No one was doing me any favors. [Diamond Dallas] Page went to bat for me and yeah, that was great. But we had to prove ourselves every single night. Unless you were Hogan or Savage or somebody like that, everybody’s job was on the chopping block. It didn’t matter how good you were, there were a thousand guys waiting to take your spot.

On His Relationship with Dusty Rhodes:

During the Turnbuckle era, I actually got married and I asked Dusty to be the groomsman at my wedding, and he said yes, thank God. And at my rehearsal dinner, I got really choked up saying [this] because it was so hard—it was just so surreal having him there. I just told him in front of everybody, it’s so rare when anyone gets to meet their childhood hero, much less get to the relationship that I had with Dusty … Thank God I got to know him on that personal level … He impacted so many people and I feel so unbelievably lucky to be one of the people that he impacted along the way.

IN THE ROOM w “The Patriot” Del Wilkes

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IN THE ROOM this week features a special sitdown interview with former WCW, WWE, and Japan star “The Patriot” Del Wilkes. What are Del’s thoughts on his WWE run being cut short due to injuries, deceiving Vince McMahon as to the extent of his injuries, wrestling for WCW alongside Buff Bagwell, and competing in Japan? Tune in to find out. Plus, The Patriot discusses his thoughts on never being a bad guy, competing in Japan, and seeing imposter Patriots compete with his gimmick. In addition, Brady Hicks, The Stro, Kathie Fitz, and Derrick McDonald talk WWE Hell in a Cell and New Day, and run down the events of this past weekend culminating in last Sunday’s South Jersey Wrestle-Fest in Woodbury Heights, New Jersey. All that plus so … much … more. Thanks, as always, for the support!

Special thanks to The Inquisitr’s Mike Bessler for his extensive coverage of this interview.

IN THE ROOM with “The New F’n Show” Jerry Lynn

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Former ECW, WWE, TNA, WCW, and ROH star Jerry Lynn steps IN THE ROOM this week for a special one-hour interview. Check out Jerry’s thoughts on his recent surgery and health situation, his time spent in ECW with Rob Van Dam, never quite catching on in WWE, and being a mentor to the young stars of today. Plus, Brady Hicks, The Stro, Kathie Fitz, Derrick McDonald, and Jordan Garber talk WWE Night of Champions, Seth Rollins’ girlfriend Zahra Schreiber, horses diving into water in Atlantic City, and black movies and hip hop music. Plus open phone lines for two full hours, and so … much … more! Thanks, as always, for the support!

Check out Mike Bessler’s extensive coverage of the interview for The Inquisitr:


Jerry Lynn was the featured guest on this week’s In The Room podcast. During an extensive, hour long interview, the 52 year-old wrestler discussed his work as a performer in the original ECW. WWE, WCW and independent work were also discussed by the now-retired wrestler as well as his celebrated in-ring rivalry with Rob Van Dam and Lynn’s recent health issues and surgery. As reported by E Wrestling News and other sources, Lynn underwent neck surgery in early August. The procedure was complicated due to a number of bone spurs in the wrestler’s neck. An online crowd funding campaign to help Jerry with his medical expenses raised almost $18,000.

Brady Hicks, a contributing writer for Pro Wrestling Illustrated and host of In the Room asked Lynn about his recent neck surgery and Lynn indicated he is recovering well but noted he will need back surgery after he is fully healed from the aforementioned procedure. Jerry expressed appreciation for all of those who contributed towards his medical expenses, noting that he has always paid for his family’s health concerns prior to his latest surgery.
Co-host Jordan Garber asked Jerry how he became interested in becoming a pro wrestler and Lynn shared his early impressions of the industry.

“It never really was my dream to become a wrestler,” Lynn explained. “I grew up — ever since I was six — watching wrestling. I was always a fan of it. But years ago back then — when I first started watching it was 1969 — the majority of the wrestlers were monsters. Especially in the ’80s. Everyone was well over six feet tall and 250 plus, you know? So I never even gave it a second thought of even trying it and then I met a wrestler one day and went to go watch him on an indy show and after seeing some of the matches, I thought, ‘My brother and I beat each other up better than this in the front yard.’ So I talked to [the wrestler] about it…and he said, ‘Well, why don’t you try it?’ I said, ‘I’m too small.’ And he introduced me to a promoter. That’s how I found out how you break into the business.”

Lynn went on to explain that he didn’t feel like he was ready for the business at first but he eventually became comfortable and confident enough to move ahead. Jerry did note that he was not always warmly welcomed by bigger guys in the gym when he first started in the business. Later in the interview, Lynn recalled that one of his first jobs as a grappler was losing in “squash matches” in the now defunct American Wrestling Association.

Discussing his work with Rob Van Dam in the original ECW, Lynn explained that his initial outing against the high flyer made an impression on a lot of people, from the fans at that show all the way up to ECW owner Paul Heyman.

“I think after the first time [Heyman] saw Rob and I wrestle each other, he knew there was something there, so he just kept putting us together,” said Lynn. “As far as the ‘New F’n Show’ thing, that was all the fans. At the Living Dangerously pay-per-view in Asbury Park there was a whole series of spots…All of the sudden one corner of the building started chanting ‘New F’n Show!’ and it just took off on its own from there. That was kind of cool because the fans gave me the name.”

Jerry Lynn and RVD went on to clash many more times in ECW. WWE hosted a bout between the two in 2001 for the company’s Hardcore Championship and the men met in a Full Metal Mayhem match for TNA wrestling in 2011.

Comparing work environments, Jerry Lynn said he most enjoyed the fans and atmosphere of ECW. WWE, however, was another story. Lynn expressed some frustration in the lack of direction he was subject to during his stint in WWE. Brady Hicks asked if Jerry was bothered by the fact that he never had a noteworthy run in WWE and the wrestler responded with candor.

“Yeah, it bothered me…When I was there, nothing they did with me made any sense,” Lynn recalled. They had me come in and then right away, they go: ‘Okay, you’re a heel now.’ And I’m thinking, the majority of my career, I’ve been a babyface; Why are you going to all of the sudden say, ‘Here’s Jerry and he’s a bad guy now?’…So it was already an uphill battle. And I didn’t say anything because I was just doing what I was told. And then my first TV, they had me win the belt off of Crash Holly, which didn’t make any sense to me…I cheated, I pulled the tights to win and the crowd still popped…After that they just had me doing time-killer matches…And after that, they just had me doing dark matches for try outs. And I’m going, “Wow, this isn’t going the way I had hoped’.”

Lynn said he was released from WWE while he was recovering from knee surgery. He noted that doctors had told him he needed six months to recover but WWE wanted him to wrestle after only three months. After telling WWE staff that he needed the full time to recover, Lynn received his release papers just two weeks later.

Closing out the interview, Jerry Lynn encouraged the new generation of wrestlers to “get up and go get it” when it comes to making it in the business. Having logged full-time stints in WWE, ECW, and WCW, Lynn also praised the work of independent grapplers who work as “weekend warriors.” Lynn noted that those men and women, just like the stars at the top of the business, are living their dreams in today’s wrestling scene.
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IN THE ROOM with Bobby Starr

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Former WCW and WWE star Bobby Starr appeared on the IN THE ROOM podcast this past Tuesday, July 21, 2015, with Brady Hicks, former WCW wrestler The Stro, Kathie Fitzpatrick, Derrick McDonald, and Jordan Garber. This show can be downloaded at both vocnation.com and thebradyhicks.com. Check it out as Starr talks his favorite memories from behind the scenes in WCW, his thoughts on WWE’s current programming and dealings with “Patrick” from Tough Enough, the death of the territories, and remembering Magnum TA’s momentum prior to the car wreck.

Plus, the gang talks about The Undertaker’s return, WWE Battleground, and Tough Enough, and take calls for two full hours. All that plus so … much … more. Thanks, as always, for the support! 

Here are some highlights:
Thoughts on Today’s Wrestling:
I watch wrestling … I’ve got Facebook on, wrestling is on … I think the Divas show is better than Monday Night Raw half the time … It’s not what it once was. It wasn’t just the bodies, or all the babyface stuff. Don’t get me wrong, I see nothing wrong with what John Cena does with Make-A-Wish and all that kind of stuff. But his talent in itself is one thing, but when you add all the other things to it, it just magnifies everything … When we got in the business … you’re going to work your ass off. It wasn’t just one person you had to impress, you had to impress many people. It wasn’t just Vince and the writers … This past Monday Night Raw, that show was booked by a wrestler, it wasn’t booked by a writer. And you can completely tell the difference in the show.
On His WCW Career:
I didn’t get the so-called “push” for the wins and stuff, but I paid all my bills. I lived halfway decent and I had an amazing time growing up in the business. I got to work with the best in the business. I got to work with a lot of the big guys too, because I was bigger … They would stick me in the ring with John Tenta, Bossman, bigger guys, but at the same time I got to work with Jushin “Thunder” Liger, Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat, Brian Pillman, Bobby Eaton … I never asked questions. You tell me to do something, I go do it. Whatever, as long as I’m getting paid. I wish it had gone a bit farther, but toward the end, everybody had a contract with WCW. My deal with WCW the entire time was a handshake deal … Would I have liked it to go farther? Absolutely. Everbody would. I never saw myself as World champion. I didn’t kid myself from the beginning.
IN THE ROOM airs live, weekly, Tuesday nights at 9 PM ET on the VOC Nation Radio Network (vocnation.com / thebradyhicks.com). Join Brady Hicks (Pro Wrestling Illustrated contributing writer), as well as The Stro (WCW’s Maestro), Kathie FitzDerrick McDonald, and Jordan Garber as they run down all that’s going on in wrestling, and sit down with some of wrestling’s top stars.

IN THE ROOM with Former WCW and WWE Referee Mickie Jay Henson

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Former WCW and WWE referee Mickie Jay Henson joined the IN THE ROOM podcast this past Tuesday, July 7, 2015, with Brady Hicks, former WCW wrestler The Stro, Kathie Fitzpatrick, Derrick McDonald, and Jordan Garber. This show can be downloaded at both vocnation.com and thebradyhicks.com. Check it out as Mickie Jay steps off his fishing boat to discuss his time with Championship Wrestling from Florida, WCW, and WWE, and compares each. He also talks about the bout with cancer that sidelined him from WWE, mentoring under Dusty Rhodes, and WCW having “too many chiefs, not enough indians,” Other points of interest include being a WCW guy in the WWE locker room; his brief wrestling career; the art of refereeing; WWE’s ECW and Vince McMahon’s dislike of Paul Heyman; and how WWE is positioned moving forward as its leadership changes hands.
Here are some highlights:
On Eric Bischoff’s Attitude Regarding Vince McMahon:
They took it pretty legitimately as far as a war with Vince … I remember the time when  … we were in Norfolk, Virginia at The Scope doing Nitro, and [D-X] showed up across the street with a big tank … Eric actually thought that they were going to come in and interrupt the show. And it was at that same time that I remember Eric actually challenged Vince McMahon to a fight. We had a pass made up for him to come in, an all-area access pass. I was assigned to referee that “match” if it took place. I remember asking Bischoff, “Well, what are we going to do?” And he said to me, “If he shows up, call it as you see it. And if he doesn’t show up, ring the bell and count to 10.” So of course that’s what happened … I know Bischoff is supposedly a big karate guy, but I’m pretty sure Vince would have whooped him … Eric Bischoff is almost like a mark in certain ways.
On WCW Favoring Surprises Over Promotion:
Some of [WCW’s] ideas didn’t really make a whole lot of sense. Eric’s big thing was the element of surprise. For instance, we had James Brown appear on on of the pay-per-views … He didn’t advertise it. He didn’t tell anybody. So why would anybody tune in? … If you’re going to have one of the biggest superstars in the world like James Brown on your show, wouldn’t you tell somebody? … It just didn’t make any sense to me, and it still doesn’t … The object of the whole thing was to gain viewership, and to make your ratings go up. By announcing a James Brown or whoever you’re going to have on your show, it sure couldn’t have hurt.
Comparing Vince McMahon and Dusty Rhodes as Bookers:
Vince does things the way he wants them to go, and they go his way. If they don’t, you’re not there … Dusty would call you on something. If you didn’t do it right, he would let you know. He had such a way of letting you know that you remembered. It wasn’t like he’d just bring you into the office and curse you out. He would bring you in, sit you down, and explain to you what you did wrong, and why – if you ever do it wrong again – you won’t be here to do it wrong again.
IN THE ROOM airs live, weekly, Tuesday nights at 9 PM ET on the VOC Nation Radio Network (vocnation.com / thebradyhicks.com). Join Brady Hicks (Pro Wrestling Illustrated contributing writer), as well as The Stro (WCW’s Maestro), Kathie FitzDerrick McDonald, and Jordan Garber as they run down all that’s going on in wrestling, and sit down with some of wrestling’s top stars.

IN THE ROOM with Mike Tenay

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Former WCW and current TNA IMPACT Wrestling announcer Mike Tenay joined the IN THE ROOM podcast this past Tuesday, June 30, 2015, with Brady Hicks, former WCW wrestler The Stro, Kathie Fitzpatrick, Derrick McDonald, and Jordan Garber. Check it out as Mike Tenay talks the origins of his “Professor” nickname, comparing WCW and TNA and his favorite memories from both, the Kurt Angle/Samoa Joe feud, and intrigue surrounding TNA’s relationships with ROH and Global Force Wrestling. Plus, he talks listening back to his commentary, his love for Mexican wrestling and culture (and how it led to his success on the When Worlds Collide show), and working with Don West.
Plus, Brady Hicks and the gang talk about WWE Tough Enough and how unlikeable the cast is, talk about TNA’s new affiliation with Jeff Jarrett, and take listener calls for two full hours. All that, and so … much … more. Thanks, as always, fo rht
Here are some highlights:

On Uncertainty in TNA Over the Years:
There was the chance, when we got going, to take this to another level. But realistically, when you look back at the fact that we were – in terms of the wrestling business model – doing it completely backwards. We were running a pay-per-view show without having the regular television show to drive people to the pay-per-view … You look at that business model and you just say “How the heck could that thing succeed?” Fortunately, even after a little stumble after the first couple of months, we received the new investors: the Carter family got involved. They were able to keep us going in that environment … In spite of all [the] negatives, we were able to attract Spike TV. Gosh, if you look back, you would have to say it was a long shot for a company that started off as just a pay-per-view company, for a company that had had its obituary written on many, many occasions. It’s one of those things that we think about every year at the anniversary time and it’s definitely one of the things that I was thinking about this past week and this past weekend, when we celebrated our 13th year in business, which is just amazing.
On TNA Bringing in WWE Stars vs Indie Wrestlers
Obviously you’re going to need a mix, going forward. That’s the first thing that you have to think about. I don’t think it’s great to have a roster that’s overloaded with veterans, and I think at the same time it’s very difficult to start with a group of independent names that haven’t really achieved a lot on the national stage.The perfect mix, and as I look and see what we’ve done in the past year plus, I don’t think that TNA gets enough credit. The fact that we’re able to maintain a roster of the established people … and what we’ve been able to do in terms of bringing new young talent to the forefront … and combining them in an effort where you have, obviously, the veterans there to give the rub to that new young talent, which you’re always going to have to do.
IN THE ROOM airs live, weekly, Tuesday nights at 9 PM ET on the VOC Nation Radio Network (vocnation.com / thebradyhicks.com). Join Brady Hicks (Pro Wrestling Illustrated contributing writer), as well as The Stro (WCW’s Maestro), Kathie FitzDerrick McDonald, and Jordan Garber as they run down all that’s going on in wrestling, and sit down with some of wrestling’s top stars.

IN THE ROOM with Bull Pain

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This week’s IN THE ROOM has former ECW, WCW, and IWA MidSouth star Bull Pain! Plus, Brady Hicks, The Stro, Kathie Fitz, Ray Bogusz, and Derrick McDonald talk WWE Elimination Chamber, the death of a friend and great referee, Daniel Bryan’s injury, and WWE Payback this Sunday! Plus, open phone lines for two full hours, and so … much … more. Thanks, as always, for the support!


IN THE ROOM with Vito LoGrasso

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This week’s IN THE ROOM features former WWE/WCW/ECW/TNA star “Big” Vito LoGrasso, who checks in with Brady Hicks, The Stro, Ray Bogusz, Derrick McDonald, and Kathie Fitz to talk his lawsuit with WWE, wearing a dress, and so … much … more. Plus Dustin Wilson calls in with his “backstage” WWE report, The Stro talks Cauliflower Alley Club, and the group previews WWE Extreme Rules. Thanks, as always, for the support!


On Suing WWE:
You weren’t allowed to be hurt … You had to suck it up and take it. If you got rocked, you couldn’t say nothing … When I go back and look at things now, a little bit older … physically speaking, I do have some issues … I look back at it sometimes after I go to a doctor visit [and see what] I did to myself that I didn’t know because I wasn’t educated … A lot of people have their opinions about this lawsuit, but do you know how much guts it takes to stand up for what you believe in and to have the integrity to stand up and say “Hey, this is what happened.” … People who are in the business who say they’re with you, they’ll knock it because they’re all wanting one more chance. If Vince hasn’t called you in five years, he’s not going to.

On Wearing Dresses:
I’d been an Italian tough guy for so long. They wanted to do something different. They said, “You have this mean, killer look like Adrian Adonis, but you’re a very handsome man. How about if you wear a dress?” And I said, “Ok. I could deal with that.” … There is nothing that anybody could do to hurt me. So I did it. It took a lot of cajones, a lot of guts, but it took a lot of self confidence in who you were as a man.

On How Other Wrestlers Perceive Him Now:
I have a lot more friends. As soon as people don’t have to compete with me … and [can] like me for me and not what’s in front of them. I let people in my world. Before, I never let anybody [get] close to me. I never let anybody near me. For the first time in my life, I started to let people in, and they’d say, “Hey man, you’re really funny.” And I’d be like, “I’ve been funny my whole life.”

IN THE ROOM with Tracy Smothers

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The “Wide-Eyed Southern Boy” Tracy Smothers steps IN THE ROOM this week to talk about his career spanning WCW, ECW, WWE, Smokey Mountain, and the USWA! Check it out [highlights below]. Plus, Brady and the gang talk lots of wrestling – including Neville, Daniel Bryan, and future stars – and take calls once again. Plus a hearty discussion of the Dustin/Seth Rollins stuff from last week’s show, and a few New Jack stories. All that and so … much … more. Thanks, as always, for the support!

Check it out as the self-professed “utility guy” talks riling up southern crowds, having fun as a Full Blooded Italian in ECW, mentoring young wrestlers, working with the Armstrongs, and being recognized while working as a bounty hunter! Here are some highlights from the interview:

On Not Catching On Better in WWE:
It was a lot of politics … I think I could have done better there as a heel at that stage. But that’s up to them … some people clip your wings and just kill you off. It was really political … It started out like an underdog thing and they gave me a couple wins. And then [when] a couple top guys don’t like it, they kind of squash it. That’s pretty much what happened … It wasn’t just me, it was a lot of guys that it happened to.

On Working Through Severe Injuries:
I had a broken ankle … [I] came down off of the ropes and I went on top of Brian [Lee]’s foot and my foot just went awkward and I snapped it. I kept ice on it and two braces on it and did a little isometrics. I had a few weeks … [of] shows around that [time] too, and I had a few-week Japan tour. You know how it is: if you don’t work [then] you don’t get paid. I worked about three months with a broken ankle. That’s what people don’t realize. How you can get hurt – and the freakish ways you can – and you have to keep going … Athletes in other professional sports, they’re out a few games, weeks, a year, or their whole career. Some of the guys in our business work hurt like that every night … Oh God it’s hard.

IN THE ROOM with Bobby Blaze

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IN THE ROOM this week features a special sitdown interview with Smokey Mountain Wrestling and WCW star Bobby Blaze. Everybody go out and order Pin Me Pay Me: Have Boots, Will Travel. All that, plus so … much … more. Thanks, as always, for the support!

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